Schimb ulei cutie de viteze automata la 530d F10

[Bogdan Ungureanu]

Salutare la toata lumea,

 

Am si eu un bmw F10 530d, si are 57.000 km, am inteles de la anumite persoane ca ar trebui la 60.000 de km sa schimb uleiul de la cutia de viteze impreuna cu filtru de ulei. Masina are cutie automata. Voi ce parere aveti, trebuie sa schimb uleiul?

[DOMI]

la generatia anterioara recomadat de ZF era intre schimbul intre 80-120k km, in functie de exploatare, regim de mers etc... la asta habar nu am.

 

 

Cel mai trimiti un mail la ZF, raspund poate si in 2 saptamani dar primesti un raspuns cert.

 

 

[mik15]

cum a zis si Domi, trimite-le un mail, insa personal eu nu as schimba uleiul la 60k km mai ales daca masina a fost folosita in regim normal de mers, fara abuzuri/cicuit/drag...l-as schimba la 100k km! Nu-i o avere sa-l schimbi iar daca o faci du-te la un service specializat!

[Bogdan Ungureanu]

Va multumesc mult pentru raspuns. Avand in vedere ca sunt nou pe acest forum puteti sa imi spuneti cine este ZF? am cautat in membrii clubului si nu am gasit, poate ma puteti ajuta.

[Alex_wly]

productatorul

http://www.zf.com/corporate/de/products/products.html

[Myx]

http://www.zf.com/eu/content/en/great_britain/corporate_uk/downloads_information_uk/downloads_information_uk.jsp

 

 

Bogdan , zf este producatorul cutiei de viteze si a uleiului pt ea . Ai date de contact , le faci un email si raspund . Sau le dai un telefon . :_

 

 

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Edited October 24, 2012 by Myx

[Bogdan Ungureanu]

@Myx & @Alex_wly: multumesc pentru raspuns

Pentru cei interesati am gasit articolul de mai jos, deci producatoru recomanda schimbul uleiului si al filtrului de ulei de la cutia de viteze la 100.000 km (aprox. 161.000km) recomandat este la 60.000 mile (aprox. 96.500 km) deci mai stau pana pe la 80.000 de km si il schimb, deoarece eu nu fortez masina.

Mai jos este un link unde gasiti informatiile postate de mine mai sus. Daca postarea acestui link incalca vreo regula a forumului rog admin-ul forum-ului sa il stearga.

 

http://www.intalnirea BMW-urilor.com/forums/showthread.php?t=574563

 

Va multumesc tuturor pentru ajutor.

 

The short answer for the modern BMWs with “lifetime fill” ATF: Change it and the filter

at least every 60,000 miles using ONLY the factory BMW proprietary ATF.

Here is the long answer:

At various production dates in the mid-1990s, which vary according to model, BMW

switched to their so-called “lifetime fill” ATF in automatic transmissions, as well as

manual gearbox lubricant and differential oil. The reason for this, as far as anyone can

tell, is marketing and not engineering – the idea being to foster the notion of the lowmaintenance

BMW.

There was no explanation of what “lifetime” meant, i.e., lifetime of the car, the

component, or for that matter the driver. If it was the component, then obviously anything

could be “lifetime fill”. The factory’s initial position is that these lubricants never need to

be changed. Then, some time later, it came out that “lifetime” means 100,000 miles.

Many dealerships are now recommending manual gearbox and differential oil changes be

done at customer expense every 60,000 miles. Every independent BMW technician I

know recommends a 30,000-60,000-mile interval, and many recommend Red Line

synthetic oils, but not for automatics with “lifetime fill” – you need the factory

proprietary ATF for “lifetime fill” automatics.

Older automatic transmission models, which do not have “lifetime fill” should have ATF

and filter services every 15,000 miles if using petroleum ATF; every 30,000 miles with

synthetic.

However, the modern automatic transmissions are different. No one knows exactly what

BMW’s proprietary ATF is, so no one knows if there are viable alternatives. We do know

that BMW dealerships charge about $500 for an ATF and filter service, due to the price

of the ATF. And that’s assuming you can get them to do the job, which is not often the

case.

Bavarian Autosport (www.bavauto.com), Pelican Parts (www.pelicanparts.com), and

perhaps others are now importing the proprietary “lifetime fill” ATF at reasonable prices,

which they sell along with filter kits, for independent BMW shops and do-it-yourselfers.

It is risky to drain a previously un-maintained automatic transmission with high mileage,

even though if it were my car I would probably chance it. Still, I have seen it happen too

many times, where a well-meaning owner or technician performs an ATF and filter

service on a neglected but well-shifting automatic, and then all of the sudden it starts

slipping. I can’t explain it, but my feeling is the fresh ATF flushes a bit of sludge from a

place where it was doing no harm to a place where it does do harm. Overfilling, underfilling,

and cleanliness are also issues in ATF and filter servicing, but these should not be

problematic for a professional BMW technician, dealer or independent.

Copyright © 2011 by Mike Miller, all rights reserved.

Copyright © 2011 by Mike Miller, all rights reserved.

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BMW has backed off its lifetime fill mantra for automatic transmissions, currently

recommending an ATF and filter change every 100,000 miles for the current BMW

models.

My inclination is to tell people to change “lifetime” ATF and filter every 60,000 miles.

However I have seen BMW automatic transmissions that were maintained break anyway.

In that event, say it happens at 90,000 miles, you would like to have the money you spent

on the ATF and filter change to put toward your new automatic transmission. And if I

told you to spend it on maintenance you’re probably not going to be very happy with me.

On the other hand, I have seen maintained automatics last 200,000 miles. I have also seen

un-maintained automatics last 200,000 miles, although both are very rare. There's just no

predicting with these transmissions. When you choose to buy an automatic transmission,

you also buy into the vagaries of the darn things, which is one reason technicians hate

them. Whether to maintain a modern BMW automatic is up to you.

At automatic transmission replacement time, we are confronted with the reality that the

local transmission shop cannot rebuild BMW automatic transmissions, even those built

by GM (BMW’s GM transmissions bear no resemblance to GM transmission in domestic

cars). There are some domestic specialists who concentrate in BMW automatic

transmission rebuilding, and you’ll see their ads in Roundel and Bimmer. However, I

have no current experience with domestic rebuilders. My experience in the past is…well,

the owner wound up buying a BMW factory rebuilt automatic transmission every time,

and this is the course I recommend to readers – “back to the dealer.”

[Alex_wly]

nu sunt expert in cutii de viteze,dar eu zic ca la 100.000 de km este tocmai bine.

[slefbb]

Sunt unii care nu l schomba niciodata..dar se stie ca la cutiile automate, schimbul este vital daca vrei sa o intretii cat mai corect.

 

Eu zic ca 80 000 km cum ai hotarat tu, este mai mult decat perfect