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Salut

Detin si eu un i3 fabricatie 2016 de vreo saptamana si uitandu-ma prin fata pe la capota am observat 2 recipiente 1 pt incalzire habitaclu iar unul pt incalzire baterie banuiesc :unsure: iar unul din ele este un pic sub nivel. Aveti careva idee ce fel de antigel se pune ??

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Multumesc.

  • 2 weeks later...
Postez o poza de pe grupul de pe farcebook (bmw i3 worldwide). Are, din cate vad, inclusiv codurile de lichid pentru fiecare recipient. Nu am testat informatia, dar vad ca nimeni nu o contesta..

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Ca tot vb de antigel, unde gasesc si eu antigel pt Oltcit?? Nu gasesc neam...
  • 5 years later...

Circula un studiu legat de lichidul de racire si cauza unui incendiu la EV:

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๐—•๐—ฌ๐—— ๐—ฒ๐˜…๐—ฝ๐—น๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป ๐—ณ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ณ๐—ถ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ: ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—น๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐—ผ๐—ณ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—ผ๐—น๐—ฎ๐—ป๐˜.

A few years ago, a BYD ๐—›๐—ฎ๐—ป crash-test story turned on a detail most people would normally ignore: the color of the coolant.

After an independent crash test in China in 2021, the vehicle reportedly caught fire ~48 hours later. BYDโ€™s explanation pointed to the use of a ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ, ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ฑ๐˜‚๐—ฐ๐˜๐—ถ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—ผ๐—น๐—ฎ๐—ป๐˜ instead of the ๐—ฝ๐˜‚๐—ฟ๐—ฝ๐—น๐—ฒ, ๐—ป๐—ผ๐—ป-๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ฑ๐˜‚๐—ฐ๐˜๐—ถ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—ผ๐—น๐—ฎ๐—ป๐˜ specified for the vehicle.

๐—ง๐—ต๐—ฎ๐˜ ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐˜๐—ฎ๐—ถ๐—น ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐˜€.
In battery systems, fluid is not โ€œjust coolant.โ€
๐—œ๐˜ ๐—ถ๐˜€ ๐—ฝ๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐˜ ๐—ผ๐—ณ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ณ๐—ฒ๐˜๐˜† ๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ถ๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฐ๐˜๐˜‚๐—ฟ๐—ฒ.

I spent some time with a leading battery thermal expert recently. The takeaway I keep coming back to: ๐—ถ๐—บ๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐˜€๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—ผ๐—น๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด.

The most valuable benefit of immersion cooling may not be faster charging. ๐—œ๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜† ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ ๐˜€๐˜๐—ผ๐—ฝ๐—ฝ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐—น ๐—ฝ๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐—ฝ๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป.

W๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—ป ๐—ฎ ๐—ฐ๐—ฒ๐—น๐—น ๐—ณ๐—ฎ๐—ถ๐—น๐˜€, ๐˜„๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ ๐—ฑ๐—ผ๐—ฒ๐˜€ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐˜ ๐—ด๐—ผ?

In air or conventional indirect-cooling designs, heat can move into neighboring cells, structures, plates, and electrical interfaces. In immersion, the ๐—ฑ๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐—น๐—ฒ๐—ฐ๐˜๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—ฐ ๐—ณ๐—น๐˜‚๐—ถ๐—ฑ is in direct contact with the cells. It can absorb and spread energy, reducing the chance that one failing cell becomes a module-level event.

The regulatory direction is clear:
In China, ๐—š๐—• ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿญ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ (effective July 2026) raises the bar from a 5-minute pre-fire warning to ๐—ป๐—ผ ๐—ณ๐—ถ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ ๐—ป๐—ผ ๐—ฒ๐˜…๐—ฝ๐—น๐—ผ๐˜€๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป ๐—ณ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐˜„๐—ผ ๐—ต๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ฟ๐˜€ after thermal runaway is induced in a cell.
In Europe, the latest ๐—จ๐—ก ๐—˜๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฅ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ revisions explicitly target ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐—น-๐—ฝ๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐—ฝ๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜.
The destinations are slightly different โ€” outcome-based in China, process-based in Europe โ€” but the trajectory is the same: ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—ป๐˜๐—ฎ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜ ๐—ผ๐—ณ ๐˜€๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด๐—น๐—ฒ-๐—ฐ๐—ฒ๐—น๐—น ๐—ณ๐—ฎ๐—ถ๐—น๐˜‚๐—ฟ๐—ฒ is becoming a hard requirement, not a marketing claim.

That matters because battery safety is no longer just a compliance topic. It is a ๐—ฐ๐˜‚๐˜€๐˜๐—ผ๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ-๐˜๐—ฟ๐˜‚๐˜€๐˜ topic, an ๐—ถ๐—ป๐˜€๐˜‚๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฐ๐—ฒ topic, and a ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐—ถ๐—ฑ๐˜‚๐—ฎ๐—น-๐˜ƒ๐—ฎ๐—น๐˜‚๐—ฒ topic.

This is where ๐—บ๐—ผ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ป ๐—ฑ๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐—น๐—ฒ๐—ฐ๐˜๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—ฐ ๐—ณ๐—น๐˜‚๐—ถ๐—ฑ๐˜€ and immersion become strategically important. Top companies are engineering cooling systems around ๐—ฒ๐—น๐—ฒ๐—ฐ๐˜๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐—ฎ๐—น ๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ณ๐—ฒ๐˜๐˜†, ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐—น ๐—ฎ๐—ฏ๐˜€๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐—ฝ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป, ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—ฎ๐—น ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—บ๐—ฝ๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ฏ๐—ถ๐—น๐—ถ๐˜๐˜†, ๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด, ๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐˜€๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐˜€๐—ถ๐˜๐˜†, and ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐˜‚๐—ณ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐˜๐˜‚๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐—ฏ๐—ถ๐—น๐—ถ๐˜๐˜†.

My view: the industry should stop positioning immersion only as โ€œcooling.โ€
๐—œ๐˜ ๐—ถ๐˜€ ๐—ฐ๐—น๐—ผ๐˜€๐—ฒ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ผ ๐—ฎ ๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ณ๐—ฒ๐˜๐˜† ๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ถ๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฐ๐˜๐˜‚๐—ฟ๐—ฒ. One that also happens to unlock performance.

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Practic daca circula racirea si pe la baterie, e nasol sa nu fie cel original. Probabil ca pe viitor vor fi avertismente sa fie obligatoriu inlocuit cu cel original.ย 

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