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#41 User is offline   .Bogdan 

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 19:15

Pai n-ai nevoie de serii, e vorba de vilbrochen aici. Toti cei care au PN-ul postat de mine pe pagina anterioara ar fi bine sa inceapa sa se roage :D
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Posted 03 January 2012 - 19:18

Aha. Mai pe romaneste, daca vreau sa-mi iau un 320d fl, de care sa ma feresc ?
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Posted 03 January 2012 - 19:20

Kip, dar am fost limpede in explicatii: seria a verificat-o seful de service de la MHS (seria MEA, fireste!!). Dar, nu am stat langa el sa ma uit unde o cauta si care sunt cele cu probleme! (oricum, e imposibil sa retii doua serii!). Deci, nu va ascund nimic.
Daca tot citisem despre asta, pe forumurile de "afara", am vorbit cu cei de la MHS si am verifiat masina mea. Atat!
Dar si ei stiau de problema, mai ales ca au mai avut cateva masini care au fost reparate in garantie si post garantie.
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Posted 03 January 2012 - 19:21

KIP, nu cred ca trebuie sa te mai feresti, oricum ai da-o cred ca e rau. Daca nici X3-urile noi nu au scapat de problema.... putem presupune ca BMW inca nu a rezolvat-o ?!
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Posted 03 January 2012 - 19:26

Nu-mi mai iau BMW, mai bine. Acum am doar un Mini S prin ograda, din cadrul grupului bavarez, si mi se pare ca e cam zgomotos la ralanti, pana se incalzeste. De fapt, sigur e, nu mi se pare. Premium doar la preturi de achizitie si costuri de intretinere, de parca nu ar mai face nimeni masini premium. O sa ma orientez catre altii, cel mai probabil.

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 19:27

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 19:27

Ai vandut BMW-ul??
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Posted 03 January 2012 - 19:32

Deci eu am sunat cam cu o luna in urma la bavaria sa intreb daca masina mea are vreo rechemare in service, am comunicat seria de sasiu si mi-au spus nu, stati linistit ca masina nu are nimic. Apoi am intrebat daca e cazul sa fac o verificare a distributiei si mi-au zis ca nu e cazul, e pe lant si nu necesita mentenanta...

Acum ma repet, TOATE motoarele N47 sufera de problema asta. Nu exista serii cu probleme sau nu. E acelasi nenorocit de crankshaft si pe toate motoarele astea, 116d, 118d, 120d, 123d, 318d, 320d, 520d, X1, X3 de dupa aprilie 2007 e acelasi vilbrochen sau cum s-o scrie...
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Posted 03 January 2012 - 20:16

Trist , dar asa este , pica fff usor lanturile , nu este admisibil asa o defectiune majora , distributia este in spatele volantei , e o nebunie de schimbat .Am un prieten bun care are motorul de 177 cai si are aceasta problema , si am fost in targ si am pornit 3 masini cu acest motor , toate la samsari , una facea grav , una se auzea dar nu constant , doar la acceleratii bruste pe loc intre 2500 si 3500 , iar a treia masina torcea impecabil , dar era 520/2009 si avea pe bord 125000km.

Am fost la Filaret cu masina amicului si seful de atelier de acolo era foarte sigur de el , ca cica la cum este gandita distributia pica sigur , sistemul de intindere este rudimentar , si cica ar pica la masiniile forjate , mai ales de firme sau aduse de afara , altfel ei au in intretinere masini conduse in regim normal care au trecut de 100.000km si nu au probleme.
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Posted 03 January 2012 - 20:19

Dajtept sefu asta de atelier de la Filaret, e el mai al naibii ca aia de la BMW din Germania...
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Posted 03 January 2012 - 20:20

Singura care elimina durerile de cap, este garantia! In rest, ....
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Posted 03 January 2012 - 20:25

Mie la Alfa 159 2007 cand mi s-a intins lantul la doar 80k, toti radeau, ma refer la posesorii de BMW sau masini germane. Lol. Eu macar mi l-am schimbat, n-am mers cu el sa se rupa.
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Posted 03 January 2012 - 20:26

Pai problema e ca nu doar lantul se intinde, se mai strica si alte alea pe acolo... printre ele, arborele... Nu puteau sa puna si ei o roata dintata acolo...
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Posted 03 January 2012 - 20:27

d-rive..e treaba gandita , pt service..doar ca au o surpriza ,caci pica mai des decat au anticipat ei si inainte de expirarea garantiei

View PostWLF, on 03 January 2012 - 20:25, said:

Mie la Alfa 159 2007 cand mi s-a intins lantul la doar 80k,



cum iti dai seama ca s-a intins !? :pardon:

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 20:30

Zgomot, pot aparea intreruperi in mersul motorului...
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Posted 03 January 2012 - 20:31

Pai in primul rand, ti se aprinde check engine si iti da eroare pe amandoua axele cu came, P1010 si P1011 daca imi amintesc bine. Si in al doilea rand, masina intra in limp mode si nu o mai poti tura, iar peste 120 la ora abia abia ajunge. Eu cand am luat Alfa, reparatia a suportat-o vanzatorul, 600 euro (pe mine m-a dus 2800 lei cu totul, a trebuit schimbat uleiul, ma rog).

Si cum zice D-rive, motorul devine zgomotos, tractoras (a mea era pe benzina).

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 20:33

View PostWLF, on 03 January 2012 - 20:31, said:

Pai in primul rand, ti se aprinde check engine si iti da eroare pe amandoua axele cu came, P1010 si P1011 daca imi amintesc bine. Si in al doilea rand, masina intra in limp mode si nu o mai poti tura, iar peste 120 la ora abia abia ajunge.



pai si ce om intreg la cap ar merge cu masina asa ?! si n-ar schimba..:mellow:

sau la bmw-u cade si gata !? te-ai ars
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Posted 03 January 2012 - 20:34

Pai nu iti dai seama la diesel se pare, zgomotul nu se aude din cauza zgomotului normal de tractoras. Si daca nu iesi din oras foarte des, nu iti dai seama ca nu se duce mai tare. Posibil la BMW sa nu se aprinda nici check egine, cine stie. In oras se comporta normal, deci motorul inca trage aparent normal.

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 21:05

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 21:59

Din punctul meu de vedere nu poti schimba arborele fara sa schimbi si cuzinetii.Din cate stiu eu asta are legatura cu presiune uleiului. Dar totusi daca problema vine de la distributie care e legatura si rog pe cineva sa lamureasca.
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